Itanium vs Itanium 2

The 64 bit SQL Server version product blurb on the net specificaly reference
s the Itanium 2 processor. Are there any limitations to the original Itanium
? Obviously the Itanium servers are much cheaper to come by.
ThanksI agree with Joe. Don't buy a McKinley, make sure you get a Madison as they
are about twice as fast.
Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP
"joe chang" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2efa01c3e219$0ac15cd0$a301280a@.phx.gbl...[QUOTE]
> i would not waste time on the original itanium system no
> matter how cheap they are on ebay, unless you want a space
> heater
> i would not expect any better performance than a Pentium
> III Xeon 700MHz
>
> specificaly references the Itanium 2 processor. Are there
> any limitations to the original Itanium? Obviously the
> Itanium servers are much cheaper to come by.|||I had a discussion on that when I was @.IT FORUM.
Ofcourse 64 bit will perform better I fully agree, but most of the time
people just forget to optimize their databases, actually no one looks at how
their queries perform, how they can be optimized, especially when using some
customized ERP or CRM applications that used to have their own storage
engine and now support sql server as the backend storage
Regards,
Dandy Weyn
MCSE, MCSA, MCDBA, MCT
www.dandyman.net
"Andrew J. Kelly" <sqlmvpnooospam@.shadhawk.com> wrote in message
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> I agree with Joe. Don't buy a McKinley, make sure you get a Madison as

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they

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> are about twice as fast.
> --
> Andrew J. Kelly
> SQL Server MVP
>
> "joe chang" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2efa01c3e219$0ac15cd0$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
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Itanium vs Itanium 2

The 64 bit SQL Server version product blurb on the net specificaly references the Itanium 2 processor. Are there any limitations to the original Itanium? Obviously the Itanium servers are much cheaper to come by
Thanksi would not waste time on the original itanium system no
matter how cheap they are on ebay, unless you want a space
heater
i would not expect any better performance than a Pentium
III Xeon 700MHz
>--Original Message--
>The 64 bit SQL Server version product blurb on the net
specificaly references the Itanium 2 processor. Are there
any limitations to the original Itanium? Obviously the
Itanium servers are much cheaper to come by.
>Thanks
>.
>|||I agree with Joe. Don't buy a McKinley, make sure you get a Madison as they
are about twice as fast.
--
Andrew J. Kelly
SQL Server MVP
"joe chang" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2efa01c3e219$0ac15cd0$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
> i would not waste time on the original itanium system no
> matter how cheap they are on ebay, unless you want a space
> heater
> i would not expect any better performance than a Pentium
> III Xeon 700MHz
> >--Original Message--
> >The 64 bit SQL Server version product blurb on the net
> specificaly references the Itanium 2 processor. Are there
> any limitations to the original Itanium? Obviously the
> Itanium servers are much cheaper to come by.
> >
> >Thanks
> >.
> >|||I had a discussion on that when I was @.IT FORUM.
Ofcourse 64 bit will perform better I fully agree, but most of the time
people just forget to optimize their databases, actually no one looks at how
their queries perform, how they can be optimized, especially when using some
customized ERP or CRM applications that used to have their own storage
engine and now support sql server as the backend storage
Regards,
Dandy Weyn
MCSE, MCSA, MCDBA, MCT
www.dandyman.net
"Andrew J. Kelly" <sqlmvpnooospam@.shadhawk.com> wrote in message
news:%23zm%23QJj4DHA.2656@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I agree with Joe. Don't buy a McKinley, make sure you get a Madison as
they
> are about twice as fast.
> --
> Andrew J. Kelly
> SQL Server MVP
>
> "joe chang" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:2efa01c3e219$0ac15cd0$a301280a@.phx.gbl...
> > i would not waste time on the original itanium system no
> > matter how cheap they are on ebay, unless you want a space
> > heater
> > i would not expect any better performance than a Pentium
> > III Xeon 700MHz
> >
> > >--Original Message--
> > >The 64 bit SQL Server version product blurb on the net
> > specificaly references the Itanium 2 processor. Are there
> > any limitations to the original Itanium? Obviously the
> > Itanium servers are much cheaper to come by.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >.
> > >
>sql

It is possible to hide/show a particular row or column?

Say, an original report displays
---
Supplier
Product 1
name
Price
...
Product 1
name
Price
...
---
Then our admin might want to hide price column so it will look like
---
Supplier
Product 1
name
...
Product 1
name
...
---
and then convert it into excel that doesn't show price.
or likewise the admin might not want name as well, so remove it from that
report.
Can it be done?
Thanks a lotHiddie,
hiding or displaying data can be controlled by the visibility property; at
the row or column level.
"Hiddie" wrote:
> Say, an original report displays
> ---
> Supplier
> Product 1
> name
> Price
> ...
> Product 1
> name
> Price
> ...
> ---
> Then our admin might want to hide price column so it will look like
> ---
> Supplier
> Product 1
> name
> ...
> Product 1
> name
> ...
> ---
> and then convert it into excel that doesn't show price.
> or likewise the admin might not want name as well, so remove it from that
> report.
> Can it be done?
> Thanks a lot
>
>|||The attached report demonstrates what you need to accomplish. Note that the
toggle is placed on the rows and not on the table cells.
--
Bruce Johnson [MSFT]
Microsoft SQL Server Reporting Services
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
"Hiddie" <Hiddie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B83ACC6E-C1CB-42FC-93C5-A85FEFC81051@.microsoft.com...
> Say, an original report displays
> ---
> Supplier
> Product 1
> name
> Price
> ...
> Product 1
> name
> Price
> ...
> ---
> Then our admin might want to hide price column so it will look like
> ---
> Supplier
> Product 1
> name
> ...
> Product 1
> name
> ...
> ---
> and then convert it into excel that doesn't show price.
> or likewise the admin might not want name as well, so remove it from that
> report.
> Can it be done?
> Thanks a lot
>
>
BasicShowHide.rdl
================================================================================
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<ZIndex>21</ZIndex>
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<CanGrow>true</CanGrow>
<Value>=Fields!ProductName.Value</Value>
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<Hidden>true</Hidden>
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<Value>=Fields!UnitPrice.Value</Value>
</Textbox>
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<ToggleItem>CategoryName</ToggleItem>
<Hidden>true</Hidden>
</Visibility>
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<GroupExpression>=Fields!SupplierName.Value</GroupExpression>
</GroupExpressions>
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<CanGrow>true</CanGrow>
<Value />
</Textbox>
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<ReportItems>
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<rd:DefaultName>textbox9</rd:DefaultName>
<CanGrow>true</CanGrow>
<Value />
</Textbox>
</ReportItems>
</TableCell>
</TableCells>
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</Footer>
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<Width>2.16667in</Width>
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<Width>2.16667in</Width>
</TableColumn>
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<Width>2.16667in</Width>
</TableColumn>
</TableColumns>
</Table>
</ReportItems>
<Style />
<Height>2in</Height>
</Body>
<TopMargin>1in</TopMargin>
<DataSources>
<DataSource Name="Northwind">
<rd:DataSourceID>cdeea17b-1207-41bf-922f-56809605e672</rd:DataSourceID>
<ConnectionProperties>
<DataProvider>SQL</DataProvider>
<ConnectString>data source=localhost;initial
catalog=Northwind</ConnectString>
<IntegratedSecurity>true</IntegratedSecurity>
</ConnectionProperties>
</DataSource>
</DataSources>
<Width>6.5in</Width>
<DataSets>
<DataSet Name="DataSet1">
<Fields>
<Field Name="SupplierName">
<DataField>SupplierName</DataField>
<rd:TypeName>System.String</rd:TypeName>
</Field>
<Field Name="CategoryName">
<DataField>CategoryName</DataField>
<rd:TypeName>System.String</rd:TypeName>
</Field>
<Field Name="ProductName">
<DataField>ProductName</DataField>
<rd:TypeName>System.String</rd:TypeName>
</Field>
<Field Name="UnitPrice">
<DataField>UnitPrice</DataField>
<rd:TypeName>System.Decimal</rd:TypeName>
</Field>
</Fields>
<Query>
<DataSourceName>Northwind</DataSourceName>
<CommandText>SELECT Suppliers.CompanyName AS SupplierName,
Categories.CategoryName, Products.ProductName, Products.UnitPrice
FROM Products INNER JOIN
Suppliers ON Products.SupplierID =Suppliers.SupplierID INNER JOIN
Categories ON Products.CategoryID =Categories.CategoryID</CommandText>
</Query>
</DataSet>
</DataSets>
<LeftMargin>1in</LeftMargin>
<rd:SnapToGrid>true</rd:SnapToGrid>
<rd:DrawGrid>true</rd:DrawGrid>
<rd:ReportID>f63998f3-88b8-4c34-a16e-364595d1d7a8</rd:ReportID>
<BottomMargin>1in</BottomMargin>
<Language>en-US</Language>
</Report>|||If I export your sample report to excel, the toggling does not work properly.
On the lowest level the unit prices are not shown if this category level was
collapsed in web before export. Furthermore if the category level was elapsed
before export, the toggling is per product name and not per category and the
unit prices don't become hidden.
Is this a bug?
Thanks for any help!
M. Peyer
"Bruce Johnson [MSFT]" wrote:
> The attached report demonstrates what you need to accomplish. Note that the
> toggle is placed on the rows and not on the table cells.
> --
> Bruce Johnson [MSFT]
> Microsoft SQL Server Reporting Services
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
>
> "Hiddie" <Hiddie@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B83ACC6E-C1CB-42FC-93C5-A85FEFC81051@.microsoft.com...
> > Say, an original report displays
> >
> > ---
> > Supplier
> > Product 1
> > name
> > Price
> > ...
> > Product 1
> > name
> > Price
> > ...
> > ---
> >
> > Then our admin might want to hide price column so it will look like
> >
> > ---
> > Supplier
> > Product 1
> > name
> > ...
> > Product 1
> > name
> > ...
> > ---
> >
> > and then convert it into excel that doesn't show price.
> > or likewise the admin might not want name as well, so remove it from that
> > report.
> > Can it be done?
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> BasicShowHide.rdl
> ================================================================================> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
> <Report
> xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/sqlserver/reporting/2003/10/reportdefinition"
> xmlns:rd="">http://schemas.microsoft.com/SQLServer/reporting/reportdesigner">
> <RightMargin>1in</RightMargin>
> <Body>
> <ReportItems>
> <Table Name="table1">
> <Style />
> <Header>
> <TableRows>
> <TableRow>
> <Height>0.25in</Height>
> <TableCells>
> <TableCell>
> <ReportItems>
> <Textbox Name="textbox1">
> <Style>
> <PaddingLeft>2pt</PaddingLeft>
> <PaddingBottom>2pt</PaddingBottom>
> <PaddingTop>2pt</PaddingTop>
> <PaddingRight>2pt</PaddingRight>
> </Style>
> <ZIndex>23</ZIndex>
> <rd:DefaultName>textbox1</rd:DefaultName>
> <CanGrow>true</CanGrow>
> <Value>Supplier Name</Value>
> </Textbox>
> </ReportItems>
> </TableCell>
> <TableCell>
> <ReportItems>
> <Textbox Name="textbox2">
> <Style>
> <PaddingLeft>2pt</PaddingLeft>
> <PaddingBottom>2pt</PaddingBottom>
> <PaddingTop>2pt</PaddingTop>
> <PaddingRight>2pt</PaddingRight>
> </Style>
> <ZIndex>22</ZIndex>
> <rd:DefaultName>textbox2</rd:DefaultName>
> <CanGrow>true</CanGrow>
> <Value>Category Name</Value>
> </Textbox>
> </ReportItems>
> </TableCell>
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Issuing multiple calls to SET IDENTITY_INSERT ON

My table's primary key is an identity column.
When I delete a row, I first copy it to another table and afterwards delete
it
from the original table.
When I want to restore the row, I use the SET IDENTITY_INSERT statement, in
order to avoid getting a new value for the identity column.
The only problem is when there are two clients trying to restore rows at the
same time - which causes an error, since the SET IDENTITY_INERT ON statement
can only be issued on one table at a time.
What can I do to fix this problem?Amir Shitrit wrote:
> My table's primary key is an identity column.
> When I delete a row, I first copy it to another table and afterwards
> delete it from the original table.
> When I want to restore the row, I use the SET IDENTITY_INSERT
> statement, in order to avoid getting a new value for the identity
> column.
> The only problem is when there are two clients trying to restore rows
> at the same time - which causes an error, since the SET
> IDENTITY_INERT ON statement can only be issued on one table at a time.
> What can I do to fix this problem?
SET IDENTITY_INSERT can be used by multiple sessions, even on the same
table, without a problem. Are you possibly running a web application
that is using pooled connections and both clients are getting the same
connection? If you're sure each client is using a different connection,
then there should be no problem.
If you are using the same connection, you may want to spawn temporary,
new connections when a restore operation occurs and close them once the
restore is complete.
David Gugick
Imceda Software
www.imceda.com|||Get rid of the IDENTITY Column and come up with a better way of assigning
keys to your rows.
"Amir Shitrit" <AmirShitrit@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C400EE3C-E209-45F6-809F-CBB33DBC5FAE@.microsoft.com...
> My table's primary key is an identity column.
> When I delete a row, I first copy it to another table and afterwards
> delete it
> from the original table.
> When I want to restore the row, I use the SET IDENTITY_INSERT statement,
> in
> order to avoid getting a new value for the identity column.
> The only problem is when there are two clients trying to restore rows at
> the
> same time - which causes an error, since the SET IDENTITY_INERT ON
> statement
> can only be issued on one table at a time.
> What can I do to fix this problem?|||Hi Amir
Use Row level locks before inserting a row into the Table.
best regards
Chandra
"Amir Shitrit" <AmirShitrit@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C400EE3C-E209-45F6-809F-CBB33DBC5FAE@.microsoft.com...
> My table's primary key is an identity column.
> When I delete a row, I first copy it to another table and afterwards
delete it
> from the original table.
> When I want to restore the row, I use the SET IDENTITY_INSERT statement,
in
> order to avoid getting a new value for the identity column.
> The only problem is when there are two clients trying to restore rows at
the
> same time - which causes an error, since the SET IDENTITY_INERT ON
statement
> can only be issued on one table at a time.
> What can I do to fix this problem?|||> When I delete a row, I first copy it to another table and afterwards
> delete it
> from the original table.
> When I want to restore the row, I use the SET IDENTITY_INSERT statement,
> in
> order to avoid getting a new value for the identity column.
This makes no sense to me. Why not just assign a new IDENTITY value, since
you apparently don't have dependent rows referencing the data in the
original table?
IDENTITY should be used only as an artificial key - if you care about what
the value is then don't use IDENTITY.
David Portas
SQL Server MVP
--|||"David Portas" wrote:

> This makes no sense to me. Why not just assign a new IDENTITY value, since
> you apparently don't have dependent rows referencing the data in the
> original table?
> IDENTITY should be used only as an artificial key - if you care about what
> the value is then don't use IDENTITY.
> --
> David Portas
> SQL Server MVP
> --
Well, I do have related records, thus I can't insert the row with a new
IDENTITY if I want to keep the relations.
It goes like this: I have a table full of Customers rows and another table
with CustomersReports rows (which is a child table of the Customers table).
When I delete a customer, I don't really delete it, but rather move it to an
archive table along with it's related CustomersReports child rows.
In another scenario, I might want to restore the Customer row to it's
original table, and restore it's related CustomersReports rows as well.
If I will restore the customer by assigning it a new ID, I will be compelled
to modify the foreign key in the child table as well.
I prefer to avoid it if possible.|||Add a CHAR(1) column called "Archive" and set it to 'Y' or 'N'. Adjust your
queries to include only Archive = 'Y'. The way you're doing it now, you're
leaving a lot of orphaned rows in related tables. From what you've
explained you don't even have Foreign Key constraints set up on these
tables, and won't be able to apply them at any point because of the manner
in which you've set this up.
"Amir Shitrit" <AmirShitrit@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8578B5F3-08BF-4AB1-A950-8F5BE57AD138@.microsoft.com...
>
> "David Portas" wrote:
>
> Well, I do have related records, thus I can't insert the row with a new
> IDENTITY if I want to keep the relations.
> It goes like this: I have a table full of Customers rows and another table
> with CustomersReports rows (which is a child table of the Customers
> table).
> When I delete a customer, I don't really delete it, but rather move it to
> an
> archive table along with it's related CustomersReports child rows.
> In another scenario, I might want to restore the Customer row to it's
> original table, and restore it's related CustomersReports rows as well.
> If I will restore the customer by assigning it a new ID, I will be
> compelled
> to modify the foreign key in the child table as well.
> I prefer to avoid it if possible.|||"Michael C#" wrote:

> Add a CHAR(1) column called "Archive" and set it to 'Y' or 'N'. Adjust yo
ur
> queries to include only Archive = 'Y'. The way you're doing it now, you'r
e
> leaving a lot of orphaned rows in related tables. From what you've
> explained you don't even have Foreign Key constraints set up on these
> tables, and won't be able to apply them at any point because of the manner
> in which you've set this up.
> "Amir Shitrit" <AmirShitrit@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8578B5F3-08BF-4AB1-A950-8F5BE57AD138@.microsoft.com...
>
Hi.
I actually do have foreign key constrains, and when I'm moving a row to the
archive, I move all of it's related child rows as well (as I explaind before
).
Besides, Adding a column to the original table costs alot more than moving
rows to the archive - both in memory resources and performence.
Managing the table this way is also eazyer.
Thanks anyway.|||"Amir Shitrit" <AmirShitrit@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2EC17FAD-43E6-41E8-9F6B-F5CACF4912FC@.microsoft.com...
> Hi.
> I actually do have foreign key constrains, and when I'm moving a row to
> the
> archive, I move all of it's related child rows as well (as I explaind
> before).
> Besides, Adding a column to the original table costs alot more than moving
> rows to the archive - both in memory resources and performence.
> Managing the table this way is also eazyer.
> Thanks anyway.
I missed your second post that explains how you're also keeping duplicates
of all your other tables as well to hold copies of your records.
I'm interested in learning more about how adding a CHAR(1) column to a
single table is much less efficient than maintaining and administering a
complete duplicate schema and writing additional code to move rows from one
schema to the other each time you want to eliminate them from your reports.
I'm a little surprised you find it "easier" to implement code that does
this:
INSERT INTO copy_of_schema_table1
SELECT * FROM real_schema_table1
WHERE MainID = 100
INSERT INTO copy_of_schema_table2
SELECT * FROM real_schema_table2
WHERE MainID = 100
--repeat for each table...
DELETE FROM real_schema_table2
WHERE MainID = 100
DELETE FROM real_schema_table1
WHERE MainID = 100
--repeat for each table...
All this to archive One set of related rows. Ahhh, probably better wrap all
of these INSERTs and DELETEs into a single transaction, so you don't end up
with out-of-sync schemas. Oh yeah, can't forget the IDENTITY_INSERT
statements. And it's a 'simple' matter of doing the reverse to "un-archive"
it. Yet something like this is 'inefficient'?
UPDATE schema_table1
SET Archive = 'Y'
WHERE MainID = 100
To "archive" a record, and
UPDATE schema_table1
SET Archive = 'N'
WHERE MainID = 100
To "un-archive" it.
Wow. As they say, to each his own, and whatever you find most clever.|||> Well, I do have related records, thus I can't insert the row with a new
> IDENTITY if I want to keep the relations.
In fact it should be easy to do this. See the example below. However, I
entirely agree with Michael. It's unnecessary and inefficient to move data
around in this way. Copying data from one table to another is a lot more
expensive than adding a one-byte column by any measure that I can think of.
CREATE TABLE Customers (cust_id INTEGER IDENTITY PRIMARY KEY, cust_name
VARCHAR(50) NOT NULL UNIQUE /* Note the alternate key */ )
CREATE TABLE CustomerReports (..., cust_id INTEGER REFERENCES Customrers
(cust_id), ...)
INSERT INTO Customers (cust_name, ...)
SELECT cust_name,
FROM CustomersArchive
WHERE ...
INSERT INTO CustomerReports (cust_id, ... /* other columns */)
SELECT C.cust_id, R. ... /* other columns */
FROM CustomerReportsArchive AS R
JOIN CustomersArchive AS A
ON R.cust_id = A.cust_id
JOIN Customers AS C
ON A.cust_name = C.cust_name
David Portas
SQL Server MVP
--

Issuing multiple calls to SET IDENTITY_INSERT ON

My table's primary key is an identity column.
When I delete a row, I first copy it to another table and afterwards delete it
from the original table.
When I want to restore the row, I use the SET IDENTITY_INSERT statement, in
order to avoid getting a new value for the identity column.
The only problem is when there are two clients trying to restore rows at the
same time - which causes an error, since the SET IDENTITY_INERT ON statement
can only be issued on one table at a time.
What can I do to fix this problem?Amir Shitrit wrote:
> My table's primary key is an identity column.
> When I delete a row, I first copy it to another table and afterwards
> delete it from the original table.
> When I want to restore the row, I use the SET IDENTITY_INSERT
> statement, in order to avoid getting a new value for the identity
> column.
> The only problem is when there are two clients trying to restore rows
> at the same time - which causes an error, since the SET
> IDENTITY_INERT ON statement can only be issued on one table at a time.
> What can I do to fix this problem?
SET IDENTITY_INSERT can be used by multiple sessions, even on the same
table, without a problem. Are you possibly running a web application
that is using pooled connections and both clients are getting the same
connection? If you're sure each client is using a different connection,
then there should be no problem.
If you are using the same connection, you may want to spawn temporary,
new connections when a restore operation occurs and close them once the
restore is complete.
David Gugick
Imceda Software
www.imceda.com|||Get rid of the IDENTITY Column and come up with a better way of assigning
keys to your rows.
"Amir Shitrit" <AmirShitrit@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C400EE3C-E209-45F6-809F-CBB33DBC5FAE@.microsoft.com...
> My table's primary key is an identity column.
> When I delete a row, I first copy it to another table and afterwards
> delete it
> from the original table.
> When I want to restore the row, I use the SET IDENTITY_INSERT statement,
> in
> order to avoid getting a new value for the identity column.
> The only problem is when there are two clients trying to restore rows at
> the
> same time - which causes an error, since the SET IDENTITY_INERT ON
> statement
> can only be issued on one table at a time.
> What can I do to fix this problem?|||> When I delete a row, I first copy it to another table and afterwards
> delete it
> from the original table.
> When I want to restore the row, I use the SET IDENTITY_INSERT statement,
> in
> order to avoid getting a new value for the identity column.
This makes no sense to me. Why not just assign a new IDENTITY value, since
you apparently don't have dependent rows referencing the data in the
original table?
IDENTITY should be used only as an artificial key - if you care about what
the value is then don't use IDENTITY.
--
David Portas
SQL Server MVP
--|||"David Portas" wrote:
> > When I delete a row, I first copy it to another table and afterwards
> > delete it
> > from the original table.
> > When I want to restore the row, I use the SET IDENTITY_INSERT statement,
> > in
> > order to avoid getting a new value for the identity column.
> This makes no sense to me. Why not just assign a new IDENTITY value, since
> you apparently don't have dependent rows referencing the data in the
> original table?
> IDENTITY should be used only as an artificial key - if you care about what
> the value is then don't use IDENTITY.
> --
> David Portas
> SQL Server MVP
> --
Well, I do have related records, thus I can't insert the row with a new
IDENTITY if I want to keep the relations.
It goes like this: I have a table full of Customers rows and another table
with CustomersReports rows (which is a child table of the Customers table).
When I delete a customer, I don't really delete it, but rather move it to an
archive table along with it's related CustomersReports child rows.
In another scenario, I might want to restore the Customer row to it's
original table, and restore it's related CustomersReports rows as well.
If I will restore the customer by assigning it a new ID, I will be compelled
to modify the foreign key in the child table as well.
I prefer to avoid it if possible.|||Add a CHAR(1) column called "Archive" and set it to 'Y' or 'N'. Adjust your
queries to include only Archive = 'Y'. The way you're doing it now, you're
leaving a lot of orphaned rows in related tables. From what you've
explained you don't even have Foreign Key constraints set up on these
tables, and won't be able to apply them at any point because of the manner
in which you've set this up.
"Amir Shitrit" <AmirShitrit@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8578B5F3-08BF-4AB1-A950-8F5BE57AD138@.microsoft.com...
>
> "David Portas" wrote:
>> > When I delete a row, I first copy it to another table and afterwards
>> > delete it
>> > from the original table.
>> > When I want to restore the row, I use the SET IDENTITY_INSERT
>> > statement,
>> > in
>> > order to avoid getting a new value for the identity column.
>> This makes no sense to me. Why not just assign a new IDENTITY value,
>> since
>> you apparently don't have dependent rows referencing the data in the
> > original table?
>> IDENTITY should be used only as an artificial key - if you care about
>> what
>> the value is then don't use IDENTITY.
>> --
>> David Portas
>> SQL Server MVP
>> --
> Well, I do have related records, thus I can't insert the row with a new
> IDENTITY if I want to keep the relations.
> It goes like this: I have a table full of Customers rows and another table
> with CustomersReports rows (which is a child table of the Customers
> table).
> When I delete a customer, I don't really delete it, but rather move it to
> an
> archive table along with it's related CustomersReports child rows.
> In another scenario, I might want to restore the Customer row to it's
> original table, and restore it's related CustomersReports rows as well.
> If I will restore the customer by assigning it a new ID, I will be
> compelled
> to modify the foreign key in the child table as well.
> I prefer to avoid it if possible.|||"Michael C#" wrote:
> Add a CHAR(1) column called "Archive" and set it to 'Y' or 'N'. Adjust your
> queries to include only Archive = 'Y'. The way you're doing it now, you're
> leaving a lot of orphaned rows in related tables. From what you've
> explained you don't even have Foreign Key constraints set up on these
> tables, and won't be able to apply them at any point because of the manner
> in which you've set this up.
> "Amir Shitrit" <AmirShitrit@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8578B5F3-08BF-4AB1-A950-8F5BE57AD138@.microsoft.com...
> >
> >
> > "David Portas" wrote:
> >
> >> > When I delete a row, I first copy it to another table and afterwards
> >> > delete it
> >> > from the original table.
> >> > When I want to restore the row, I use the SET IDENTITY_INSERT
> >> > statement,
> >> > in
> >> > order to avoid getting a new value for the identity column.
> >>
> >> This makes no sense to me. Why not just assign a new IDENTITY value,
> >> since
> >> you apparently don't have dependent rows referencing the data in the
> > > original table?
> >>
> >> IDENTITY should be used only as an artificial key - if you care about
> >> what
> >> the value is then don't use IDENTITY.
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Portas
> >> SQL Server MVP
> >> --
> >
> > Well, I do have related records, thus I can't insert the row with a new
> > IDENTITY if I want to keep the relations.
> > It goes like this: I have a table full of Customers rows and another table
> > with CustomersReports rows (which is a child table of the Customers
> > table).
> > When I delete a customer, I don't really delete it, but rather move it to
> > an
> > archive table along with it's related CustomersReports child rows.
> > In another scenario, I might want to restore the Customer row to it's
> > original table, and restore it's related CustomersReports rows as well.
> > If I will restore the customer by assigning it a new ID, I will be
> > compelled
> > to modify the foreign key in the child table as well.
> > I prefer to avoid it if possible.
>
Hi.
I actually do have foreign key constrains, and when I'm moving a row to the
archive, I move all of it's related child rows as well (as I explaind before).
Besides, Adding a column to the original table costs alot more than moving
rows to the archive - both in memory resources and performence.
Managing the table this way is also eazyer.
Thanks anyway.|||"Amir Shitrit" <AmirShitrit@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2EC17FAD-43E6-41E8-9F6B-F5CACF4912FC@.microsoft.com...
> Hi.
> I actually do have foreign key constrains, and when I'm moving a row to
> the
> archive, I move all of it's related child rows as well (as I explaind
> before).
> Besides, Adding a column to the original table costs alot more than moving
> rows to the archive - both in memory resources and performence.
> Managing the table this way is also eazyer.
> Thanks anyway.
I missed your second post that explains how you're also keeping duplicates
of all your other tables as well to hold copies of your records.
I'm interested in learning more about how adding a CHAR(1) column to a
single table is much less efficient than maintaining and administering a
complete duplicate schema and writing additional code to move rows from one
schema to the other each time you want to eliminate them from your reports.
I'm a little surprised you find it "easier" to implement code that does
this:
INSERT INTO copy_of_schema_table1
SELECT * FROM real_schema_table1
WHERE MainID = 100
INSERT INTO copy_of_schema_table2
SELECT * FROM real_schema_table2
WHERE MainID = 100
--repeat for each table...
DELETE FROM real_schema_table2
WHERE MainID = 100
DELETE FROM real_schema_table1
WHERE MainID = 100
--repeat for each table...
All this to archive One set of related rows. Ahhh, probably better wrap all
of these INSERTs and DELETEs into a single transaction, so you don't end up
with out-of-sync schemas. Oh yeah, can't forget the IDENTITY_INSERT
statements. And it's a 'simple' matter of doing the reverse to "un-archive"
it. Yet something like this is 'inefficient'?
UPDATE schema_table1
SET Archive = 'Y'
WHERE MainID = 100
To "archive" a record, and
UPDATE schema_table1
SET Archive = 'N'
WHERE MainID = 100
To "un-archive" it.
Wow. As they say, to each his own, and whatever you find most clever.|||> Well, I do have related records, thus I can't insert the row with a new
> IDENTITY if I want to keep the relations.
In fact it should be easy to do this. See the example below. However, I
entirely agree with Michael. It's unnecessary and inefficient to move data
around in this way. Copying data from one table to another is a lot more
expensive than adding a one-byte column by any measure that I can think of.
CREATE TABLE Customers (cust_id INTEGER IDENTITY PRIMARY KEY, cust_name
VARCHAR(50) NOT NULL UNIQUE /* Note the alternate key */ )
CREATE TABLE CustomerReports (..., cust_id INTEGER REFERENCES Customrers
(cust_id), ...)
INSERT INTO Customers (cust_name, ...)
SELECT cust_name,
FROM CustomersArchive
WHERE ...
INSERT INTO CustomerReports (cust_id, ... /* other columns */)
SELECT C.cust_id, R. ... /* other columns */
FROM CustomerReportsArchive AS R
JOIN CustomersArchive AS A
ON R.cust_id = A.cust_id
JOIN Customers AS C
ON A.cust_name = C.cust_name
--
David Portas
SQL Server MVP
--|||On Sun, 08 May 2005 11:25:15 -0700, Amir Shitrit wrote:
> Hi.
> I actually do have foreign key constrains, and when I'm moving a row to the
> archive, I move all of it's related child rows as well (as I explaind before).
> Besides, Adding a column to the original table costs alot more than moving
> rows to the archive - both in memory resources and performence.
> Managing the table this way is also eazyer.
> Thanks anyway.
Although I fully agree with Michael and David - this is just a bad idea,
as far as I can see, you could do it using application locks. Like this:
CREATE PROCEDURE NeverRunsInParallel
AS
DECLARE @.result int
EXEC @.result = sp_getapplock @.Resource = 'myLock', @.LockMode = 'Exclusive'
IF @.result => 0
BEGIN
-- Do your thing, secure in the fact that
-- no other connection will do it at the same
-- time.
END
EXEC sp_releaseapplock @.Resource = 'myLock1'
<<
HTH,
Andrés Taylor

Issues after server rename

We have a new SQL Server 2005 box in place and we named this server - Server2. Restored all the production databases from original Server1. Server1 is running SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition. Server1 also has three subscribers ServerA, ServerB, and ServerC.

After Server2 was renamed to Server1 and Server1 decommissioned, replication is not working on the new Server1 due to the renaming issue. I can afford to re do replication from ground up on Server1 but cannot reinstall SQL Server 2005 and start from scratch since the server is already in production.

How can I resolve this issue? What is the right approach to take for the scenario described above?

Its unclear to me what state the new server 1 is in now. To get this to work you should have restored the master, msdb, distirbution, and publication databases, and then the transaction logs of the publication databases, followed by the tail of the publication database restored with the keep_replication switch. These should have been restored to a SQL 2000 server, the new SQL 2000 server should br renamed Server1 and restarted. Then run the sp_replrestart command, and run with the continue on data consistency error profile until the errors are cleared.

Then upgrade your publisher to SQL 2005.

If publications exist in Server1, attempt to script them out and then drop the publications and recreate them with the script and then redeploy your subcribers.